Video: Cultural level of the average American... are Americans stupid?

I've always had the feeling the average American was not particularly informed about foreign politics. Actually, it wasn't really a feeling, it was more of a constant confirmation. I know I've never lived in the US, so I theoretically should not be able to judge, even so I call tell: the average American in not even informed about their own politics.

I'm sure there a smart people in the states, and I know that not all Americans are so utterly ignorant. No offence, but I think the average American has a cultural level that hits the bottom line. Michael Moore showed that to us in his works. I couldn't believe it, couldn't believe those numbers that said "60% of American between 18 and 35 years old could not locate the United Kingdom in the World Map".

Now there's even more proof. Sorry, but if you are an American you should pay close attention to this video, and ask yourself if your academic system and your useless TV shows and Fox news are actually doing something good to you.

Americans are NOT stupid

Americans are NOT stupid Americans are NOT stupid Americans are NOT stupid

This video is as much dark comedy as frightening sad. How could you locate France or South Korea in place of Australia? A 10 year old European is well prepared for that answer, for all I know.

Probably the best/worst part is this: (speaking of Bush non existing policy of invading Kyrgystan)

Whatever he says he's right. He's from Texas, he's gotta be right!

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Steve's picture

Video: Cultural level of the average American... are Americans s

After watching the stupid American's video I'm very embarrassed to be an American listening those idiots.
I would hope that you don't think all American's are that uniformed or ignorant. I wouldn't say I'm an expert in world affairs, but all of the questions except for two were extremely easy to answer.
Not knowing where Australia is - I can't even think of what to say about how stupid you would have to be to not know that one. I do know where most counties are or at least could come very, very close to their locations. One thing about that though in defense of American's - You live in Europe and I'm sure just by where you live and the proximity you are to other countries you would be more familiar to the locations of all of the countries around you and considering the size of the US being similar to the size of Europe, I could tell you the location of all of our 50 states - would you or most Europeans be able to?
I'm not a war monger and I don't like that we are at war. I don't want to invade anyone.
You also mentioned Michael Moore. When his work first came out there was a lot of discussion about it and as you may understand that in the US the two largest political parties are the Democrates and the Republicans. Moore is a Democrat and President Bush is a Republican, so to Moore, anything the Republicans do is wrong. The main criticism about his work is that it was very bias to his message. He only showed what would help his cause. It was only a partial truth or a selected truth - he didn't present the entire story or both sides of the situation. I suspect the producers of this video did the same thing. I'm sure there were people that answered the questions correctly, but they chose to not have them shown. They only picked the idiots. I'm sure they could have had a segment showing only the ones that got the ansewers correct thus projecting a different feel to the piece.
All I'm trying to say is that without a complete picture it is difficult to be fully informed or educated about any given subject and one should take what ever is presented to them with a grain of salt. It would be like being on a jury during a trail and hearing only one side of the story from the prosecutor and then deciding the guilt or the innocence of the accused without hearling the defense present their case.

Federico Pistono's picture

@Steve

Steve wrote:
They only picked the idiots. I'm sure they could have had a segment showing only the ones that got the answers correct thus projecting a different feel to the piece.
Hi Steve, interesting observations, indeed. The video and the article are actually provocative, and the specifically the video is without the shadow of a doubt unilateral. I believe it's mainly for two reasons: - everyone knows that not all Americans are stupid, but it's funnier to show just the stupid ones. - those who are smart enough to understand the very purpose of the video (which is not to merely ridicule Americans, but to show a broader sense of ignorance and the logical absurdity of people supporting a war to a place they can't even locate in a map/know its existence) are also smart enough to realise that the creators did know that an American audience would belong to this category and appreciate the irony. - if the video was politically correct there would be no place for discussion. That is the reason why I presented the article as unilateral, even though not as much as the BCCC did.
Steve wrote:
Moore is a Democrat and President Bush is a Republican, so to Moore, anything the Republicans do is wrong. The main criticism about his work is that it was very bias to his message. He only showed what would help his cause. It was only a partial truth or a selected truth - he didn't present the entire story or both sides of the situation. I suspect the producers of this video did the same thing.
True, kind of. This video was simply funny, so it's hard to compare it with MM's works. About the "o Moore, anything the Republicans do is wrong" I wouldn't go so far. It is true that he tries to help his cause, but if you read his books you will find that he's got a larger view, criticising both Democrats AND Republicans, if necessary.

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Ok - I agree with your first

Ok - I agree with your first comment, but my remarks were put forth partly because of the language you used in your opening statement regarding the video. You used such words/phrases as "....not particularly informed about foreign politics...constant confirmation." or "No (now) there's even more proof." or "This video is as much dark comedy as frightening sad." Those comments seem to have been made with more of an intent of being truthful than just for a humorous take on the video. You do also offer up the point that you don't live in the US and that "...not all Americans are so utterly ignorant.", but the flavor of your writing does sound like you agree more with what the video portrays than not. I would agree though, that there are a lot of stupid Americans and not all are not particularly informed about foreign politics, but I don't think to the extent the video makes it out to be - at least not with the people I associate with - friends/family/co-workers.

I also would agree with your second comment, kind of. I guess I was being a little simplistic or overly broad in my comment. I should have been more articulate in my choice of words and maybe phrased it more towards President Bush rather than all Republican issues. I would also like to add - the video was funny, but you also need to look at it from the perspective of being an American or being a European or more specifically an Italian. We both see our own little part of the world in our way and see other parts of the world from different points of view and thus will have different feelings or opinions on what we see.

Federico Pistono's picture

@Steretypes are true

Steve wrote:

I would also like to add - the video was funny, but you also need to look at it from the perspective of being an American or being a European or more specifically an Italian.

I hear you, loud and clean, here. I myself am living in a similar situation, the typical Italian stereotype is of the rude-noisy-stupid-messy-talk-with-a-terrible-accent and so on. Sad enough to tell, it is true, to a certain extend. Stereotypes exist for a very good reason: they are based on reality.

Even though not all Italians are rude-noisy-stupid-messy-talk-with-a-terrible-accent and not all Americans are ignorant-and-do-not-know-the-world-outside-"this-country" it is true for many of them.

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Steve's picture

Even though that's true,

Even though that's true, it's not exactly what I had in mind. I wasn't referring to stereotypes, but more about the environment we live in and the sources of our information and news and how our own politics and personal situations will affect how we view others and other situations.
Just as different parts of any particular country, town or neighborhood may affect our lives and how we think and act - in a more global sense the way we think and act could be very different on opposite sides of the planet. The same set of circumstances could be viewed very differently say for instance between you and me - in America and in Italy.
To illustrate my point - I would not have used the stereotype for Italians you did. My brother's in-laws are Italian, being born there and they don't fit any of what you described except for the accent part, sort of. If I were to give a stereotype to Italians I would use words like - Machismo, artistic, using lots of hand gestures, pasta eating wine drinkers and the typical American as being a loud, brash, somewhat arrogant know it all.
BTW - do you fit your stereotype and have a terrible accent when you speak English? And, to fit my stereotype of an American - I don't speak any foreign language.

Federico Pistono's picture

@iAm

Steve wrote:

BTW - do you fit your stereotype and have a terrible accent when you speak English?

LOL, actually I am far from the typical Italian. To be honest, I'm just the opposite. I don't like football, I don't watch TV, they tell me I speak fluent and almost de-accented English, I watch films in original language, I have blue eyes, blonde hair and I'm not hairy.

Everyone thinks I'm either Icelandic, Norwegian, Swedish or something like that. I often disguise myself as one of them, or as Australian, it's quite funny. ^_^
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Steve's picture

Actually, I could describe

Actually, I could describe myself almost exactly the same - I don't like football (American football), I would hope my English is de-accented, I watch films in original language (as long as it's English), I have blue eyes, I have blonde hair, sort of (more of a light brown), and I'm not hairy as well.
I don't think I've been thought of as Icelandic, Norwegian or Swedish, but my grandparents on my dad's side came from Germany and Slovakia on my mom's side. So, technically I guess you could call me European - American. I have on occasion though, pretended to be Australian or German or Italian or Chinese or used some other kind of accent for fun.
So, where does your non-Italian features come from and why do you speak English so well?

Federico Pistono's picture

@English

Steve wrote:

So, where does your non-Italian features come from and why do you speak English so well?

When I was 16 I won a scholarship for this place.

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Steve's picture

English Speaking

Congratulations! So, which one did you attend and was it a two year scholarship? I looked at your Curriculum Vitae and it doesn't list which location, but it has that you were a break dance instructor - possible future employment aspirations perhaps?

Steve's picture

One other comparison I

One other comparison I forgot - I do watch TV, but mostly programs about history, home improvement, lanscaping, nature, movies or the news and typically while I'm working on the computer.

Steve's picture

Scholarship

I don't want to seem like a stupid American - I assume you went to the Italy location, but for all I know, since you speak and write English so well it could have been in Wales or the U.S. BTW - Have you ever been to the U.S?

Federico Pistono's picture

I went to the United World

I went to the United World College of the Adriatic, but it was mostly by chance, I had Norway as firts choice, followed by Canada and the US.

I have never been to the US, though, that's what makes my (judgement) a mere supposition, even though supported by a lot of evidence and trusted people, plus the experience of the American I've met in my life.

A few extraordinary people, truly amazing, and conscious of the ignorance of the average American. Pretty good at mathematics and science, but know close to nothing about World History and foreign countries in general.

Still, only a mere supposition. ┐('~`;)┌
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Steve's picture

United World

I need to apologize - your Curriculum Vitae does have the location. My mind was on half power that day. Anyway, sounds like a great experience and I'm sure you made the most of it.

Mere supposition can sometimes be like a stereotype - based on reality - and some of what you indicated is true for some of us. As I've never been to Europe or "overseas", I would have to use the same supposition for my view of others in your part of the word as you do for Americans - perhaps with different descriptors or subjects. Not every nations people are the smartest in all areas or the most knowledgeable about everything.

I think maybe you know more about our politics than we know about yours is that we (the US) are probably in the news worldwide more than any other country. Our politics and ideas and doings are more public knowledge around the world than most countries. Take as an analogy the guy down the block with the loud car or barking dog or noisy kids - the entire neighborhood knows about them rather than the quiet old lady right next door that doesn't bother anyone.

As in my stereotypical description of an American I had us as being loud and brash. That not only applies to the individual person (myself NOT included), but it also applies to our government and foreign policies. You simply know more of what's going on here than I know what's going on in Italy.

Steve's picture

United World - 2

One additional comment I wanted to post.

As for the lack of knowledge of world history, I have a personal interest in history, domestic and world wide and even at times I think I was born too late because of my passion for old things and knowing about times gone by, so the idiots not knowing about the past is not something I cannot relate to. To me it's second nature.

Another thought: As you have never been to the US, I would also like to extend an invitation to you to visit here and there will always be an open door to you at my house. I'm sure I could show you a lot of the good things about this little part of the world I call home.

Federico Pistono's picture

@invitation

It sounds like you are very well interested in a lot of subjects and the World that surrounds you. Very well then, that I guess make you atypical, just like me. I don't mean to boast here, but exceptio probat regulam de rebus non exceptis.

Steve wrote:

One additional comment I wanted to post.
Another thought: As you have never been to the US, I would also like to extend an invitation to you to visit here and there will always be an open door to you at my house. I'm sure I could show you a lot of the good things about this little part of the world I call home.

Now that you mention it, I would love to come to the States, maybe after the current administration falls down. I just found a job, so I think I'll be able to save some money in the future, I would gladly accept your kind offer.

m(_ _)m

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@invitation

I don't mean to boast either, but there are a few Americans that are not at all like those represented in the video. I also don't want to give the impression that I'm any kind of expert in any one area, but I know a little about a lot of things. I've been trying to translate - "exceptio probat regulam de rebus non exceptis", but I am not able to get an accurate translation. I understand the idea of it, but not the exact wording.

"...administration falls down." That makes it sound like a dictatorship and a revolution is in the works. It's not quite that bad, but I get your meaning. So, from your response it looks like you are now a college graduate? d-(^_^)-b

Federico Pistono's picture

@regime

An inaccurate translation would be "the exception that proves the rules", that is of course inadequate, otherwise I would have used the English version. ( ̄ー ̄)


As for the dictatorship, you don't need metal bars to be in prison.



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Surveillance

I figured that was what it meant and why you didn't have it in English, but not being able to read and understand it as well as you there is something lost in the translation.

No you don't need bars, but it was just your wording that seemed a bit harsh. With today's technology just about anyone can watch or listen to anyone else if they really wanted to - not only the government. I would have had it as ...when this administration is voted out. Showing that the people still have the power to vote their representatives in and out of office.

As for cameras, I seem to recall a study indicating in the US we are seen on at least 100 cameras a day. Below is an article from 2002 about that issue. You also need to understand the terrorist issue from our country where the worst acts happened on 9-11. It made a lot us scared about what was/is next.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/04/19/sunday/main506739.shtml

Andy Sedgwick's picture

Another classic example of

Another classic example of generalization. The video does far from proving its point, but rather presents racial degradation (towards Americans).

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